The Nashville Predators have matched the 14 year, $110 million offer sheet from the Philadelphia Flyers for defenseman Shear Weber.
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Predators match Flyers offer sheet for Shea Weber
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#1 by Jared at July 24th, 2012
Stupid move on NSH’s part. Keeping a dissatisfied – but talented – played in the fold was more important to the owners than business profitability. I would strongly advise anyone from taking any business advice from anyone in Nashville. Running a perennial loss with your organization by treating it as a “money pit” is no way to run your business.
#2 by Johhny_o at July 24th, 2012
Glad the Preds matched.
#3 by Rob Creighton74@hotmail.com at July 24th, 2012
Nashille had to match. Otherwise a complete rebuild was in order.
#4 by Jose at July 24th, 2012
Obviously he wouldn’t have signed the offer sheet had he not wanted to play in Nashville. He would have held out and been traded. Stop acting like you know the complexity of the situation and his opinion on the team. And also, stop acting like you know the financial situation better than the Preds. Get over it.
#5 by BLAH at July 24th, 2012
Yay no Weber in the East the Leafs Still have hope (even if its very minuscule)
#6 by Drew at July 24th, 2012
Very interesting move. I have no idea why Nashville would rather have one player for 14 years with a ridiculous cap hit than use the 4 picks to trade for other players.
It’s even more interesting that they chose to match knowing that Weber wants out.
DRAMA!
#7 by Rob74@hotmail.com at July 24th, 2012
next will be Luongo for Bolland and a 1st rounder
#8 by Dave at July 24th, 2012
Stupid move on Nashville’s part, didn’t they learn anything from the whole Nash fiasco? Keeping a malcontent on the team will not only divide the room but take their focus and will away from winning. Not to mention delay the whole rebuilding process. That’s just not a smart move in general let alone when there’s a franchise player at the top next yr like Mackinnon. Plus they have to pay the man more than Crosby over the next 3 years and 27 Million within the 1st yr. All for a player who doesn’t even want to be there, Ouch.
#9 by hotwings at July 25th, 2012
i dont think its a horrible decision to keep weber. saying weber was malcontent is debatable. im sure he heard a lot of input from his agent, ie: “this is your last chance to cash in on the CBA”. in other words, him signing the philly offer sheet probably has a lot more to do with business that anything personal towards nashville. im sure his agent enlightened him in terms of the possibility of staying in nashville, since they do have 10 diff. owners, including 12% mega bucks owner, brett wilson…
even if they lost weber, there is no way that nashville would have a chance at mackinnon. nashville still has a deep roster and winning culture..
what is there to rebuild in nashville? they have a more than respectable roster, and are basically in the same spot they were always in… in need of more scoring / top 3 forward.. their defence is still solid and goaltending outstanding… this isnt calgary we are talking about…
#10 by Andrew at July 25th, 2012
I never like to call people out on these things, but Jose, you could not be more wrong. Signing an offer sheet that large when playing for a team that is (in comparison to the rest of the league) a small-market team puts an immense amount of pressure and financial strain on them. Did you ever think that perhaps he signed the offer sheet because he thought he would have a better career playing for the Flyers who have all the tools to win a Stanley Cup except a big punishing defenceman? (Hey that’s Shea Weber) Also, I don’t believe anyone was claiming to know the financial situation BETTER than the Preds organization, only that by matching this offer, Nashville allots an incredible amount of it payroll to Weber. (All of this can be clearly shown since it is all public domain, do a little research next time) The offer sheet was designed to cripple Nashville over the next couple seasons should they match. Luckily for them they do have a solid team as is because they will have little to no space to make key moves.
#11 by Dave at July 25th, 2012
@Hotwings Actually Weber specifically stated last yr that he would hold off on signing an extension with the Preds until he seen what they did in the offseason. And with Suter leaving via free agency do u really think he’s going to not only stay but be happy in Nashville? I highly doubt it…..
#12 by AJ at July 25th, 2012
Guys, guys. This whole argument is pointless.
Fact is, he is Nashville property, a professional and I expect him to behave like that. All this won’t change until next year July 25 at the earliest. They still can use their same formula of success (to a point) with this roster.
I myself am happy he stayed there for the time being, as I hate the arrogance and dominance of big market teams owning smaller ones business-wise and this offer sheet was a big ugly way of showing that. I don’t like that, I’m for parity.
If Philly wants to improve their roster, draft well or make a fair trade. Getting Weber by flashing your wallet and only giving up four 20-(25-)30 1st rounders is not the way.
#13 by Dave at July 25th, 2012
@ AJ Dominance and arrogance of big market teams? The Leafs have the biggest market in the league and haven’t been able to influence anything post lockout…… But i do get what you’re saying about big market teams and free agency, but that’s the nature of the business and it’s the same across all major sports, not just hockey. So until the small market teams are allowed to offer up “extras” to offset the big cities extras like “popularity” lots of entertainment, more money, good players to play with etc then that will never change.
Plus Philly has drafted well and been making fair trades for years now, getting guys in like Giroux, Cobourn, Cotourier (JVR, M.Richards and J.Carter were all drafted and then traded for younger cheaper pieces they currently have in Brayden and Luke Schenn, Voracek, W.Simmonds, a 1st round pick which turned out to be S.Cotourier etc). They unfortunately like many teams just haven’t had the goal tending needed to win the cup (they made it to game 7 of the cup finals with horrible goal tending which shows how good of an overall team they actually had). And now that they are all in on Bryz the only other realistic option to improve overall team D would be to get an impact D-Man. And what better impact D-man to go after than S.Weber? So IMO i think that’s why Philly chose the offer sheet route, that and the fact that picks would be non lottery made the offer to tempting to pass up.
#14 by Jared at July 25th, 2012
Jose:
I do know I can hold my own in business matters, something Nashville has yet to show they have any ability at.
#15 by AJ at July 25th, 2012
@Dave:
Toronto and Montreal markets have not just the tempting attributes but also the suffocating pressure no other markets do. I guess that’s a huge turn-off, unless you’re from the area. But that’s a different matter.
I don’t question the decision from a Philly standpoint, it was completely reasonable, I just wished that they wouldn’t be able to improve by crippling another franchise.
They said they’d lost their patience after a lot of trade proposals. Fact is, they offered garbage for a player of Weber’s caliber. That’s hypocrisy #1. They we’re the evil in this tale and we might have a happy ending.
Hypocrisy #2 is that owners and GMs want to eventually pay less money for players, still, they are handing out 100+ M contracts like it’s free candy. CBA expiry or not. As a business move, it’s also reasonable ofc.
#16 by Dave at July 25th, 2012
@AJ i’m not debating values or who’s right or wrong in this situation. I’m just trying to state the facts with an unbiased yet insightful reason as to why this whole situation came about the way it did.
But if u want to start talking right and wrong yes Philly was wrong for doing things the way they did. But unfortunately with the CBA structured the way it is, it’s not illegal in the rules (regardless of morals) therefore we are left with the situation we have now.