NHL Draft Hits: Flames offer lacking, What the Avs need for No. 1, Sabres want to move up

  • Gare Joyce: On the Flames offer of all 3 1st picks for the 1st overall pick. Flames would pick Nathan MacKinnon over Seth Jones as a it’s position of need. “Trade would never get made. Picks and a player of established value, then a discussion. Otherwise non-starter.” Sean Monahan would be the Flames fallback with the 6th selection. Could look to Nashville at No. 4 to get Aleksander Barkov. The Flames don’t have ‘that’ player of established value to make the deal. The Hurricanes could be the wildcard as they are not taking Valeri Nichushkin. They might take Barkov if he’s there. They are looking for immediate help.
  • Adrian Dater: Dater has heard along that if the Avalanche trade down from the 1st overall, they still want to remain in the top 3. To trade down, the Avalanche also want a very good established player or two, as well as the 2nd or 3rd overall pick. The Panthers and Lightning have the 2nd and 3rd overall picks, and are not really interested in giving up an established player plus their own pick to get the 1st overall. Dater thinks at this time, it’s more likely that the Avalanche will keep the 1st overall pick. There was no chance the Avalanche would accept the Flames offer, as they hate the Flames for the Ryan O’Reilly offer sheet.
  • John Vogl of Buffalo News: The Sabres are trying to move up from the 8th overall pick in this year’s draft, according to their director of amateur scouting, Kevin Devine, “We’re really trying to move up.” To get the No. 1 pick, the Sabres could make a deal with the Predators at No. 4, then make a deal with the Avalanche for the No. 1. The Sabres also have the No. 16 pick, a pair of 2nd round picks (No. 38 and 53), as well as Ryan Miller and Thomas Vanek.

    “The preliminary talks are that everybody’s talking about our young players to move up,” Devine said during an appearance on WGR 550 AM. “We’ve got to decide if it makes sense to move some of those players to move up. So it’s a difficult conversation, but if you’re really honed in on one guy and he can be a franchise changer, then you have to look at it.”


  1. hotwings

    June 17, 2013 at 8:00 am

    Nichushkin might fall to the Devils or Sabres it seems..

  2. Mark Easson

    June 17, 2013 at 9:00 am

    I don’t see him falling to 8 or 9. Someone would likely trade up.

  3. Jeff

    June 17, 2013 at 9:33 am

    100% agree with Joyce, and i was saying the same to friends yesterday.

    If the Avs were to seriously listen to Calgary, Calgary would need to start with players who could step into the Avs line up and play for Patrick Roy, this season.

    Veterans like Giordano & Glencross, and/or young guys like Backlund and Brodie. Mix and match the right combination, with #6, and maybe you’ve got enough for the Avs to look long and hard at this.

    And i said the same thing yesterday as well, that i think Calgary’s target is McKinnon.

    I also said this:

    I believe Calgary’s issues start with ownership and Ken King. If they just got out of the way, let Feaster do his work and stop with the mixed messages — Feaster can clean up this mess that you (and Sutter) created. But it will take a few years and you need to let him strip it all the way down. That he wasnt able to trade the remainder of his veterans at the deadline, was a horrible decision, and cost them a top 3 pick in this draft.

  4. Jeff

    June 17, 2013 at 9:39 am

    I know Dater is pretty good, and i like his work, but i disagree with the last paragraph in his piece.

    The new guys don’t care at all about what went down with the Flames and O’Reilly (and nor should they).

    Business is business, and you don’t let personal issues (Sherman and co are to blame here, not the Flames) between the ‘GM in Title Only’ and another team, get in the way of what could be a historic NHL Transaction.

    Not to say anything might happen between those teams, but it will NOT be because “they hate the Avs”.

  5. Jeff

    June 17, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Sabres have the assets (both veterans, and young players/prospects) to be a major player.

  6. Tyler

    June 17, 2013 at 11:09 am

    @Jeff … I agree with you. Business is business and the Flames had every right to offer O’Reilly an offer sheet. Sherman fouled that up and that’s his deal. The Avs would be stupid to not at least listen to the Flames if a serious offer is on the table. What if they come back with a deal that included a package of the 6th and Sven Baertschi?

  7. Jeff

    June 17, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Yeah, Sven is highly coveted around the league. You have to trust your scouts in a situation like that.

    Who do they like more?

    Seth Jones or maybe a package that includes Sven and Barkov? These are the types of trades that change a franchise for 20 years.

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