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Morning Rumors: Del Zotto, Weber, Oilers, Panthers, Kings, Canucks and Sabres

  • Renaud Lavoie: Rangers Michael Del Zotto will be a healthy scratch tonight and Lavoie is hearing that a trade is a possibility.
  • Patrick Kearns: “What is Michael Del Zotto’s value even at this point? Still young, former first round pick, still getting super sheltered minutes. Very low defensive zone starts, doesn’t push the play. Other than a few nice looking rushes through neutral zone, he doesn’t excel anywhere. Hasn’t been the answer on the PP, does he have much value at all anymore?”
  • Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal: When Oilers GM Craig MacTavish said he would love to add a “stud defenseman,” it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know he was thinking of Predators Shea Weber. It would take a lot to get him. It would take the Oilers 1st round pick. The Predators would go after Jordan Eberle and Justin Schultz, and wouldn’t mind Sam Gagner. They would likely have interest in Darnell Nurse and Oscar Klefbom.
  • Jim Diamond: Don’t see it the Weber deal happening. “Surely we’ve beaten to death how dumb trading Weber after giving him so much of the up front bonus money is, right? And that is aside from him probably being the best defenseman in the league too.”
  • Bruce Arthur: “At this point, it’s possible the Oilers will be used as an argument against bottoming out for high picks for a generation.”
  • Ryan Rishaug: The Oilers send Mark Arcobello to the AHL and recall Oscar Klafbom.  Eakins told Arcobello to find a place to live in Edmonton yesterday, so he’s just caught in a roster shuffle and will be back.
  • George Richards of the Miami Herald: More moves are likely coming for the Panthers.

    “I’m not happy with the situation our team is in as far as wins and losses,” Tallon opened. “The effort has been better lately. We’re going to continue to be aggressive and make changes that are important for our franchise moving forward keeping our focus on the future.

    “We’re excited about where we’re headed, the foundation being built. We added two young pieces to an already deep foundation of players and prospects. This is a step in the right direction for the Florida Panthers.”

    “In this day and age it’s tough – especially midway through or early in a season – to make moves,” Tallon said. “You have to be aggressive, have to be creative. Now with the new CBA we can take money back. That will help future moves.”

    Versteeg indicated that defenseman Brian Campbell may like to join him in heading back to Chicago, but Campbell said he never said anything to Versteeg about wanting to go back Chicago.

  • The Fourth Period: Injuries have hit the Kings. Jonathan Quick will be out four to six weeks, Jeff Carter out another three weeks, Kyle Clifford has a concussion and Matt Green is on the IR. GM Dean Lombardi has had some talks with other teams about possible deals, but nothing appears imminent according to a source. Lombardi had been shopping Clifford and Alec Martinez, but those talks have cooled.
  • Jason Botchford of the Vancouver Province: At last years trade deadline, the Canucks were after Ryane Clowe and reportedly offered their 2013 1st round pick for him. The Canucks ended up using the pick on Hunter Shinkaruk. Clowe had a no-trade clause and chose the Rangers for family reasons and because the Rangers were more likely to offer money closer to what he was looking for as a UFA. The Sharks ended up getting the Rangers 2013 2nd round pick, the Panthers 3rd round pick and 5th round pick.
  • Sam Carchidi: The Sabres haven’t contacted Flyers Ron Hextall about their GM position.

21 Comments

  1. jeff

    November 16, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Oilers could put together a package for Weber that David Poile couldnt ignore. But could they do it without including RNH or Hall?

  2. Jeremee

    November 16, 2013 at 11:09 am

    I think they could ! The real question is : Do they have the balls to do it ?

  3. Hammer

    November 16, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Option#1 Oilers trade Sam Gagner, Ales Hemsky, 1st round pick for Weber

    Option#2 Oilers trade Sam Gagner, Ales Hemsky, Jordan Eberly for Weber

  4. jeff

    November 16, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Gagner and pick(s) or Gagner and Eberle is nowhere near enough.

  5. jeff

    November 16, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Let’s say EDM aims to put together a package with the caveat that Hall and RNH are excluded. Can it be done? Sure. But it would likely require a massive package of assets. How many and which of these assets does it take for David Poile to say yes?

    2014 1st and 2nd Round Picks.
    2015 1st and 2nd Round Picks.

    Yakapov.
    Eberle.
    Schultz.

    Klefbom.
    Nurse.
    Maracin.
    Zharkov.
    Musil.
    Roy.
    Miller.

  6. Zach

    November 16, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    For as good as Letang is, I wish the Pens would look to trade him to the Oilers for a massive haul. That’d be amazing.

  7. Chris

    November 16, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Hammer: let me translate your trade proposal

    Oilers trade a small, soft, centre who is poor defensively, below average offensively and and can’t win faceoffs along with a small, injury prone winger on an expiring contract and a pick or good young player for one of the best players in the world locked up to a long term deal?

    Yeah that sounds fair.

    Try Eberle, klefbom and a 1st. Even then I’m not sure Poile bites. If that was an option Mac T would be stupid not to pull the trigger.

  8. Chris

    November 16, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Remember that Nashville could have let Weber go to Philly for FIVE first round picks and chose to keep him. Start there when considering trade proposals.

  9. jeff

    November 16, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Excellent point.

  10. Patrick

    November 16, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    That is the ticket Chris.

  11. Jeremee

    November 16, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Then Chris what about a spinoff of what Jeff posted .

    Eberle
    Yakapov
    Schultz
    and a 1st 2014
    and a 1st 2015

  12. Jeremee

    November 16, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Then Nashville would send :

    Shea Weber
    and a 2nd 2014
    and a 3rd 2014

    or would that be entirely to much ?

    I’m a Blues fan so, I was just wondering what you think would be asking price ?

  13. Brian

    November 16, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Chris, that is a good point but a trade with all or most assets up front is way different than a taking a slow annual payout.

  14. hotwings

    November 16, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    all this weber to edm talk is just pie in the sky… seems so far fetched… for the amount of assets that edm has to give up (theorhetically), it seems they would be in the exact same spot as they are in now, because organizationally, they have to give up so much..

  15. Chris

    November 16, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    Brian: which is why I said to use it as a starting point.

    Jeremee,

    I think you have to look at it more in terms of parameters.

    I think Nashville would want the following:
    This year’s 1st
    One of the top young forwards
    A top defensive prospect
    Maybe a depth prospect or another pick

    You can fill in the blanks as to who fits the parameters.

    As for the 2015 1st rounder; no team should trade it especially of you’re not likely to make the playoffs now that every non playoff team can win the 1st overall pick.

    McDavid is slated to be the best 1st overall since Crosby. It’s one thing to give up a Yakupov or a Reinhart/ekblad; giving up McDavid would not be worth it.

  16. Jeremee

    November 16, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Cool, that’s all I wanted to know . I had forgotten all about McDavid in 2015 .

  17. WilddliW

    November 16, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    2014 1 st round
    Eberle
    Hemsky
    D prospect

  18. Matt

    November 16, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    It’s going to take a lot for the Oilers to make this happen and the fans like the flash of forwards but teams want the D-men to compete in this league. To make it happen I’m thinking the Oilers would have to load up Shultz and Nurse so the Preds get a solid presence for the future and a puck moving defenceman now. The Oil I’m sure would prefer to include Hemsky with his contract but they’d have to likely add in a more valuable asset in Yakapov to help the Pred’s offensively. The Preds gain cap space and some great pieces now and for the future. But even this trade is a desperation move for the Oilers on a season that can already be written off. And do we want to run into Cap issues over the next few years with that big contract? As an oilers fan, I would love to see Weber in an Oil uniform now but I’d also like to see Nurse come up as he too is exactly what the oilers need (if only he was 1-2yrs further into his development). Tuff spot for MacT – doesn’t matter what he does, he’s going to be criticized for it. At least he has Kevin Lowe to protect him for now.

  19. Chris

    November 16, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    Nobody wants Hemsky unless it’s as a rental in exchange for a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

    I actually think the Oilers should go after Erhoff or Myers in Buffalo. They’d still have to give up a Yakupov, Eberle or 1st depending on the player but it would help Edmonton. I think Myers will be a beast.

  20. dave the jew

    November 16, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    buyers and sellers
    weber is a cornerstone D man
    that is proven. Will he whip the young punks in the city of champions into shape? That remains to be seen. I don’t think it matters as long as Dubnik tends the twine. winners build from the net out.

  21. frank

    November 24, 2013 at 4:31 am

    Please edm do not trade thé future for one man. Lets stop and think here.Weber is one man. do you thhink hé is going to stop thé puck from going in ? Will hé Also do all thé scoring for thé tea m ?giving away nu rse kelfbom yak ebs shultz is crazy i repeat crazy imagine having any three or more of those players gone than what ? Hé alone will not bring thé cup home. All thé balance of thé team would be gone for one Guy . Let nashville find à sucker and hope its not mac t