Morning Rumors: Panthers, Predators, Leafs, Habs, Hurricanes, Canucks, Jets, Sabres, Oilers, Ducks, Pens and Islanders

  • Elliotte Friedman of CBC: The Avalanche and Panthers did have serious talks about Dmitry Kulikov, and may do so again.

    Panthers Tim Thomas could be a trade deadline target. He has a no-movement clause in his contract.

    Predators GM David Poile on if they are ready to see what they could get for some of their players: “No, we just have to start winning some games.” Names that have been mentioned by other teams are Matt Cullen and David Legwand.

    Contract talks between the Maple Leafs and Dion Phaneuf were to take place at some point this week.

    There was a real attempt by the Canadiens and P.K. Subban to find some common ground.

    The Hurricanes will go with three goalies until they decide what to do with one of Cam Ward, Anton Khudobin or Justin Peters.

    After three wins, Hurricanes GM Jim Rutherford has pulled back on his trade hunt. Defenseman Michael Del Zotto and Jake Gardiner are players up his alley, but the Rangers and Maple Leafs don’t want to take on salary.

    Friedman wonders how many GMs called the Canucks about Alex Edler have coach John Tortorella chewed him out.

    Jets Evander Kane’s contract makes him extremely valuable with the cap going up.

    The Sabres could use a compliance buyout on Ville Leino in the offseason. They now know what the market is for Ryan Miller after Henrik Lundqvist’s signing. Coach Ted Nolan would like to see Miller stay.

    Oilers coach Dallas Eakin’s said he considered using forward David Perron on defense in late game 5-on-5 situations if the Oilers need offense.

  • The Fourth Period: Contract talks between the Maple Leafs and Dion Phaneuf’s camp are expected to pick up this week if they haven’t already. It was reported in late October that he was looking to get around $7 million a year in a new deal. It is uncertain if the Maple Leafs would be willing to accept a $7+ million deal.
  • Dennis Bernstein: “Ducks G Jonas Hiller now 12-4-4, only goalie on roster with playoff experience and they should trade him because……”
  • James Mirtle: One interesting name that may be available is Panthers Shawn Matthias. If the Leafs are looking to change up their forward mix, he is big and can play center.
  • Bucky Gleason: Sabres coach Ted Nolan is committed to fixing Tyler Myers and Drew Stafford. Ryan Miller is integral to the Sabres, either by re-signing him or by trading him to acquire assets. Nobody is untouchable in Buffalo. Steve Ott and Matt Moulson will be UFAs at the season and could be gone before the end of the season. Gleason thinks the Sabres need to package some of the draft picks they’ve stockpiled and acquire top-line talent they lost when they traded them away.
  • Craig Custance of ESPN: Penguins Brooks Orpik is their only top four defenseman that doesn’t have a deal for next season.

    “We’ll see,” Shero said, when asked about what that means for a potential Orpik deal. “We’ll sit down and talk about it internally and see where we are. Who knows? Players might see where the cap might be, [and say] ‘I might just wait it out and see what happens.'”

  • Hope Smoke: Dreger: “I see the Blues going all in for a goalie like Miller at the trade deadline. They ordained Halak the #1 but that’s just mind games.”
  • Brett Cyrgalis of the NY Post: Source said that GM Garth Snow does not perceive that head coach Jack Capuano is the problem with the Islanders and won’t be fired any time soon.
  • Hope Smoke: Darren Dreger: “Islander management does not believe that coaching has anything to do with their struggles this season” … “Like most  GM’s Snow is eager to make a change. He’s looking for a top 2-3 defenseman. Not easy to get those pieces”


  1. Blues Fan

    12/12/2013 at 10:58 am

    Why would the Blues go “all-in” for a goalie at the trade deadline with the salary cap going up and Miller becoming a UFA at the end of this season.

    I understand that the team is desperate to get that playoff monkey off their backs but trading away valuable assets to acquire Miller at the trade deadline seems foolish when you have a shot to simply sign him in the offseason with an increased salary cap without giving up a T.J. Oshie type or draft picks.

  2. Chris

    12/12/2013 at 12:47 pm

    The answer is because they want to win a Cup. The Blues might be the best young team in hockey. The whole point of developing assets isn’t just so you can use them on your team, but also so you can use them to fill holes that your team needs filled. A good goaltender can mean the difference between winning the Cup and not winning the Cup.

    If it comes down to legitimately contending for the Cup and losing some prospects or keeping the prospects to ‘stay competitive’ but never actually contend, I pick the former. It’s all about the Cup not about prospect pools.

    Look at LA. They never would have won the Cup without Quick. Bruins never would have won the Cup without Thomas.

    Both teams spent assets to fill holes. The Kings traded Brayden Schenn, Jack Johnson, Wayne Simmonds and high draft picks to get Richards and Carter. Totally worth it and that’s where the Blues are now.

    They can trade for Miller, sign him and there would be a bunch of teams lining up to grab somebody like Halak. Edmonton would jump at the chance.

  3. Ian

    12/12/2013 at 3:18 pm

    Blues Fan I think this might be the year for St. Louis to roll the dice and make a real run for it… an upgrade in net seems exactly the tonic.

    Chris I agree with everything you’re saying except (maybe) that the Kings wouldn’t have won without Quick (however his play was exceptional that year). The play of Jones and Scrivens has me feeling it’s that rock solid defense that’s making it a lot easier to excel in net in Los Angeles.

  4. Blues Fan

    12/12/2013 at 4:15 pm

    I see exactly where both of you are coming from and don’t disagree with much either is saying but none of us have touched on the real issue with trading for Ryan Miller……SALARY CAP!

    The Blues have little to no salary cap space available to add a contract the size of Ryan Miller’s without moving out a significant chunk of salary (which I doubt that Buffalo will be ecstatic about accepting given their rebuilding process)

    So my question to both of you is basically give me a trade scenario that will accomodate both teams and satisfy the salary cap as well.