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  • Howard Berger of Berger Bytes: It is well known that Panthers GM Dale Tallon is listening to offers for the 1st overall pick in this year’s draft. Two people who are employed by NHL team have mentioned this potential deal.

    Toronto would send Dion Phaneuf, Nazem Kadri and the 8th overall pick to Florida for Ed Jovanovski and 1st overall pick. The Maple Leafs would use the 1st overall pick to select Aaron Ekblad.

  • Contract Breakdown: (from CapGeek)

    Dion Phaneuf (29 years old): 7 years at $49 million kicks this year. A $7 million salary cap hit that runs through 2020-21.

    Nazem Kadri (23 years old): 1 year left at $3.1 million, with a $2.9 million salary cap hit. He’ll be a RFA after next season.

    Ed Jovanovski (37 years old): 1 year left at $4 million, with a $4.125 million salary cap hit.

What do you think of this rumored deal?

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Dion Phaneuf

Nazem Kadri

Ed Jovanovski

Aaron Ekblad

31 Comments

  1. Nicholas Maringola

    June 2, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Highly doubt leafs would package dion + nazem +pick for an old capped defense and the pick maybe the deal works without nazem

  2. Chris

    June 2, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    Stupid. Maybe if it was Kulikov coming back instead of Jovonovski.

    I really don’t see the point in that other than to shed Phaneuf’s salary.

    How does that make the Leafs better? Jovonovski is pretty much done and Ekblad doesn’t project to be a Drew Doughty but merely a solid player.

    Essentially that would mean that the Leafs give up a legitimate top four defenseman (There is no debate that Phaneuf could play in most team’s top two pairings), a young former 7th overall centreman who is improving and likely one of Ehlers, Ritchie, Virtanen or Nylander.

    I’d support the deal if it were the following

    Phaneuf + Kadri for 1st overall pick
    Phaneuf + Kadri + 8th overall for Kulikov and the 1st (and hope that the Leafs pick Bennett, Reinhart or Draisatl with the pick)

    I’m not trying to start a debate here I’m just saying as a Leaf fan that’s what I would consider fair. It’s not like there’s a McDavid, McKinnon or Crosby at the top of this year’s draft and I think Florida knows this. I think Florida have an eye on a player who is going to go around 8 and want to maximize the return in moving down. I trust Talon’s drafting abilities. After all this is the guy who was the assistant GM of the Hawks (2002) and then the GM (in 2005) so under his watch the Hawks were able to get Duncan Keith, Dave Bolland, Bickel, Crawford, Wizniewski, Brower, Byfuglien, Hjalmerson, Smith and Marcus Kruger all after the 1st round.

    If I’m Nonis and I know Tallon wants to draft somebody like Ehlers or Ritchie at 8 instead of Ekblad at 1 I have to admit to myself that he’s a better GM than me and do what he wants to do.

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    June 2, 2014 at 4:49 pm

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    June 2, 2014 at 4:54 pm

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  5. BlowuptheB's

    June 2, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    Yet again toronto will be overpaying and ankther will reap the benefits… nonis and burke are so simular!

  6. Deeznutz

    June 2, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Leafs fans always want something for nothing. Phaneuf + Kadri for #1 would get laughed at. Jovo softens the blow o taking back an overpaid overrated Phaneuf.

  7. ChrisB

    June 2, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    While i find it interesting, I’m not buying all this Phaneuf/1st overall(and all the different variations) trade rumours. I Know he has his deficiencies, but he’s Toronto’s best current defenseman, overpaid or not.

    Ekblad may not even turn into Phaneuf, let alone Doughty. Last year, Ekblad was pretty much the next Orr. Now scouts are more and more throwing out Erik Johnson’s name as a comparable. Which isn’t exactly bad, but is miles away from Orr. Even so, who knows how long that will take. Reaching potential is not a 100% guarantee, and especially not overnight.

  8. Mike the Leafs Fan

    June 2, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    Like others i would love to have Ekblad on this team. If you are florida though, this trade makes no sense. why add another young C when they already have two young C’s in Barkov and Bjugstad? why take on a huge contract like Dion’s when they already have Campbell and Luongo’s contracts? to me i think florida says no and looks at other offers.

  9. ChrisB

    June 2, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    I agree with Mike. Makes no sense for either team.

    Toronto would most likely have an interest in Ekblad(or whoever at #1) but not at that expense. I really don’t think a trade is to be made that would satisfy both sides.

    IMO, Talon should be looking for an established winger that fits in the Panthers core age range, in return for trading down in the draft, or trading the #1 outright.

  10. ChrisB

    June 2, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    Correction: Talon should be looking for an established winger that fits, period. Doesn’t necessarily need to involve the #1, but considering he’s on record shopping the pick, I would assume the #1 would be the more focal point in conversations he will subsequently be having now til the draft.

  11. RexR

    June 2, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    Agree with Chris and Mike.

    Leafs would be overpaying. Florida would have a use for Phaneuf but not the right fit for Kadri. He’s a fit on a defensively sound team that can’t score goals (Nashville comes to mind).

    So top-4 D + 55-point centre + 8th overall for a 1st overall, in a year without a consensus #1? Too expensive to move up 7 spots.

    The people who think Phaneuf and Kadri are garbage need to give their heads a shake and be objective for two seconds.

    Phaneuf is a dependable top-4 on any team (top two on many) on a fair contract. He’s not a 50-point D anymore, but that’s because he’s playing very hard minutes. Literally, the hardest minutes in the NHL — check Behindthenet, his QoC is the highest, and his D-zone starts are off the charts. These are very tough minutes for the Leafs to replace since they have only a barely-top-4 guy in Gunnar and everyone else is offensive-minded. (Or bad.) In Calgary his big numbers were playing the sheltered-young-defenceman minutes that Rielly got this year.

    Kadri is a viable 2C in a scoring role. Since lockout: 126 games, 94 points. (That’s good.) And he had to drag Clarkson around. And he’s still RFA next year.

    These are useful assets. I would not trade these just to move up a few spots in a meh draft year.

    Florida would win this trade, since they probably have their eyes on guys a few slots lower. I’d trade down this year too. Good development options in the top-10 and no consensus #1.

    Last time the Leafs traded up it was for Biggs and that’s worked out great *cough*.

    Most importantly … Howard Berger? Really? Not impossible, but medium-credible at best.

  12. hotwings

    June 2, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Even if your attempt to “frame” this trade a little by saying “leafs give up Phaneuf, to get another top 3 d-man via free agency/trade” (in a seperate deal)… you are still left with trading the 8th overall pick, and Kadri, a former 7th overall pick, for a weak(ish), non-consensus, #1 pick in Eklbad…

    I don’t know about you, but i’d prefer Kadri and the 8th overall pick, to Ekblad. I don’t think you could actually find a link that describes Ekblad as the much sought-after “generational” type player…

  13. Nick

    June 2, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    I think this deal bites the big one. The leafs have a strong young defensive core. Trading Phaneuf is a good idea, but we need to get a solid d somewhere until the young guys are ready to stand on their own. Giving up Kadri in this deal doesn’t make sense.
    Better to package Phaneuf and Kadri (and maybe our 8th pick) to get a solid, consistent #1 centre. If we are going for the #1 pick, take a forward with potential, and cut either Kadri or the 8th pick from the deal.

  14. Ben

    June 2, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Phanuef, Kadri, 8th for Ed jovanovski, 1st

    Ed is pretty much done, fla i believe should switch ed with Gudbranson cause Gudbranson is a right hand shot, he plays defensive game, that fits in Carlyles system. Franson doesn’t and he’s a offensive defencman,
    Leafs have to many offensive defencman. If this trade does happen and if Ed is coming or Gudbranson, leafs defence will be terrible for next season cause nobody is going to give a top 1 or 2-3 pairing dman. You could package lupul and Gardiner for solid dman

  15. eakieness

    June 2, 2014 at 11:48 pm

    With Kadri going then Barkov is coming back. Young C for young C.
    Jovo doesn’t buy you 8th
    But Phaneuf, I believe, buys you 1st , in this years Draft.

  16. Fred

    June 3, 2014 at 7:45 am

    HORRIBLE trade for leafs, HORRIBLE!

  17. Mike

    June 3, 2014 at 8:46 am

    Bad Trade. For Florida sure, but Toronto getting the shaft on that trade. Jovanovski is getting older and a lil washed up. Trade phaneuf for carolinaf or staal. Keep kadri, I would say do the 8th and Raymond for 1st and Jovan

  18. ross

    June 3, 2014 at 9:27 am

    number of teams that would have interest in dion is less than 4, so if your looking to move him there will not be many options.

  19. D

    June 3, 2014 at 9:32 am

    everybody relax, its howard berger, he knows as much about hockey as the u.s. government knows about democracy

  20. BlowuptheB's

    June 3, 2014 at 10:07 am

    @D… your an idiot at best.

  21. Leaf fan foerver

    June 3, 2014 at 10:38 am

    It may seem a liitle steep for the Leafs but lets not forget Jovanovski has only 1 year left, then that frees up cap space. I beleive the Leafs prefer Bolland to Kadri. It makes no sense to give Bolland the kind of money he wants and play Kadri on the 3rd line, personally thats a waste. Trading Phaneuf and Kadri frees up enough money to make a serious run at Paul Stastny or Ryan O’Reilly.

    As for Phaneuf, I personally don’t love the guy, but he’s far from a number 1 or 2 dman. Unless the Leafs go get Shea Weber/Duncan Keith or Ryan Suter, Dion Phaneuf in 2 years will be absolutely horrible. In two years time there will be no way out of Phaneuf’s contract and he will still have 5 years left!

    Adding a top young defenceman like Ekblad and Jovanovski for 1 year frees up tonnes of cap room to venture after what Toronto really needs…a number 1 centre. This is where you go after Joe Thornton, Stastny or O’Reilly.

    Phaneuf & Kadri = approx 10 million cap hit (plus Kadri is a free agent next year, what do you think he will ask for then?. Bringing in Jovanovski is 4.5 million for 1 year thats it. You will save close to 6 million in cap space!

    Anyone thinking Florida will move the number 1 overall pick for the 8th and Kadri is smoking something fierce!

    I would say to Shanny and Nonis pull the trigger ASAP!

  22. D

    June 3, 2014 at 10:53 am

    @BlowUpTheB’s, LOL, you’re a fool if you think otherwise

  23. hankbemis

    June 3, 2014 at 11:01 am

    @D-umbass – this is what democracy is guy, which lobby presents the most $

  24. Chris

    June 3, 2014 at 11:10 am

    Phaneuf had 31 points and was a +3 last year. Nazem Kadri had 50 points in 78 games last year (which is more than Brayden Schenn by the way if you’re looking for comparables).

    Florida’s top scorer was Nick Bjugstad with 38 points in 76 games. Their top scoring defenseman was Brian Campbell with 37 points and a -6 rating.

    So Florida would gain a young centre (Kadri) who would have lead the team in scoring by a long shot last year AND a defenseman who would play in their top two AND the 8th overall pick (Ehlers, Ritchie, Virtanen) for an old defenseman coming off a hip replacement and might not play again and the #1 pick (Ekblad/Reinhart)?

    Seems like a steep price to pay for a prospect who might only be marginally better than the prospect you’ll get at 8 and may never be as good as Kadri or Phaneuf. Remember the hype that surrounded Phaneuf when he was drafted in the strongest draft in NHL history? Phaneuf was taken 9th overall in 2003 and was thought to be the next Scott Stevens.

    Remember that when reading these scouting reports. Ekblad may be a highly rated guy but as others are saying on here I don’t see anyone rating him in the Drew Doughty type mould.

    Again, I think Florida are doing what Edmonton should have done with Yakupov: They know that they can get a player they rate as high or higher as the guy they’re getting at #1.

    Think of how much better Edmonton would be if they’d gained assets by trading their #1 pick (Yakupov) and dropping down to pick Galchenyuk, Reinhart, Rielly or all the way down to 9 and picking Jacob Trouba.

    How much better would Edmonton be with Trouba AND a bunch of NHL players/prospects?

    I think that’s how Tallon sees it and as I mentioned earlier, I trust his record more than Nonis’s. Beware Davey.

  25. Steve

    June 3, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    In order to get rid of Phaneufs albatross of a contract you are going to have to give pieces like Kadri, Gardiner, Rielly, Reimer, and others in the deal…I just want him out of Toronto, worst Captian in Leafs History

  26. Chris

    June 3, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    I agree that he’s a brutal captain but I don’t agree that his contract is an albatross. Clarkson’s contract is an albatross.

    You are underrating Phaneuf. He’s overpaid. He’s not Shea Weber or Drew Doughty.

    But he is a legitimate top 4 d man and top 2 on half the teams in the NHL. Teams are paying top dollar for these types of players.

    The better option is to bring in better leaders (like a Dan Boyle etc.) to surround Phaneuf with a stronger leadership group and of course, better players.

    In the right atmosphere Phaneuf would earn his 7 mil.

    I just wish he wasn’t captain.

  27. Ross

    June 3, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    Dion is a 5-6 defenceman, he isn’t top 2 on half the teams in AHL!!!

  28. EastCoastHockeyFan

    June 3, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    lol wow i cant get over how retarded some of the leaf’s fans here are, Phaneuf isnt Doughty true, but Phaneuf is top 2 on just over 50 pct of the teams in the league, i do not mind the dollar amount on his contract, would of liked it more at 4-5 years but its not, he is by far the best d man on the leafs you dont give that away with other prospects a few months after the deal was signed just to get rid of him, the leafs need to find people to put with him to lesson the burden
    the deal to fla is laughable and so are most of the people that commented in on this thread

  29. Hugh Allan

    June 3, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    Phaneuf, Kadri and Toronto’s 1st round pick (8th overall) for the 1st overall pick doesn’t make sense. Maybe Phaneuf, Kadri or Toronto’s 1st round pick plus a prospect while taking back Jovanowski’s contract. There isn’t a Crosby, Lemieux, Gretsky or even McKinnon type of player available.

  30. Lee

    June 3, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Listen, Phaneuf is crap and always will be, Kadri is not material for a hard team. This is a salary dump in Phaneuf (god it’s hard to actually type his name since he is crap) and a potential salary dump in Kadri who is another really fourth liner. People this team is not ready for anything. We might get some help from our farm team just to fill out the line-up but we need REAL players. Just tune to this Stanley final and figure out who made it and who is out. Really LA/NYR for the final and who is out worries me more Chi sj stl ana bos mtl pitt and the teams who fired coaches/gms are ready to step u. . You really think we are ready for them.

  31. Miller158

    June 4, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    The leafs should keep there 1st and look at trading Dion to the Islanders for their pick (5th overall). If they want a defensemen like Ekblad why not just take Haydn Fluery (who is similar to Ekblad and who I personally think is the better D-man) with there own pick at 8. And then with the 5th pick take Draisaitl, Da Colle, Nylander or if lucky maybe even Bennett if he falls from the top 3. Imagine a future 4 of Reilly, Gardiner, Fluery and Finn. Looks just as good as a future 4 of Rielly, Gardiner, Ekblad and Finn doesn’t it? Plus they would have the player they pick at 5th.