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Posts Tagged Bill Daly
News involving the Jets, Wild, Canadiens, Rangers Penguins, Flyers and some CBA issues that weren’t really discussed
- Ed Tait and Tim Campbell of the Winnipeg Free Press: Mark Scheifele will be invited to the Jets training camp. Zach Bogosian’s rehab from his wrist surgery is coming along fine and he may begin skating this week. His return date is unknown, and it’s possible that he misses the first month of the season.
- Michael Russo of the Star-Tribune: Wild’s Pierre-Marc Bouchard said he’s ”pretty much symptom-free” and aiming for opening night. He hasn’t been cleared to play yet. Josh Harding, diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in October, feels great and doesn’t foresee any problems. He isn’t sure how his weekly treatment will affect him though. Marco Scandella is still out with a groin injury, will be reevaluated this week. The Wild don’t plan on bringing Matt Dumba to camp.
- The Fourth Period: Canadiens Tomas Plekanec suffered what is believed to be a pulled rib muscle in late December and may not be ready to start training camp. He hasn’t skated in 10 days, but could begin to do so today.
“It’s better, but is going slower than I thought,” Plekanec told Czech reporters this morning. “This is gonna take some time. It’s not anything serious, that I know one hundred per cent.”
- Katie Strang of ESPN: There will be little time for Michael Del Zotto and the Rangers to get a deal done, but they’ve already started the process.
“I’m hoping to get something done as soon as possible,” Del Zotto told ESPNNewYork.com. “I know my agents and Glen (Sather) are talking and I expect that they’ll try to get a deal that’s fair to me and the team.”
Del Zotto was previously looking for a multi-year deal worth more than $3 million a season according to a source.
- Rob Rossi of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review: The Penguins will look to sign Evgeni Malkin and Kris Letang to contract extensions this summer. Both can sign an extension starting on July 1st. GM Ray Shero has talked to Sidney Crosby that it’s possible that Malkin could become the highest paid Penguin.
“I did not anticipate what the salary-cap number would be, but I‘ve said over the years that you had to anticipate the (last labor contract) was ending,” Shero said. “And I wanted to be in a position to sign (captain Sidney) Crosby, Malkin and (defenseman Kris) Letang.”
- Randy Miller of the Courier Post: Chris Pronger is expected to attend the Flyers training camp, but he’s unable to skate. He’s still suffering from post-concussion syndrome and will likely never play again. Look for Claude Giroux to be named captain of the Flyers.
- Kevin Paul Dupont of the Boston Globe: Toronto was leading in the way in pushing to fix long-term back-diving contracts. The Sharks were another team opposed to those types of deals. One agent was miffed that a couple issues were hardly looked at or ignored.
“No-trade contracts, just as one example,’’ he said. “Why, as a GM, would you give them out as routinely as these guys do? That never even got discussed. Or how about the arbitration process? The salaries that get swept into that whole thing probably serve as one of the most inflationary factors in the game. Barely a change to arbitration.
“I get the 50/50 — that’s where the other leagues went, so you had to figure that’s what would happen here. And, yeah, that’s a huge change. But some of what didn’t get touched here, like, say, the age level for free agency, kinda shocks me. It stayed the same. So the players can’t call that a win, per se, but there’s value in the fact that a lot of it didn’t change.’’
The agent added,
“It’s pretty clear how Gary’s operated here,’’ said the agent, referring to Gary Bettman, league commissioner for all three lockouts in the game’s history. “If you look at the document, you can tell he’s ignored the input of hockey people, especially his own GMs, who are the guys who have to work with it every day. Nothing changed in no-trades, in arb, in age threshold for free agency . . . guaranteed contracts.
“He’s an extremely bright guy, no one questions that. But I think he thinks his own GMs are dumb. He refuses to listen to most of them, and so you end up with a deal that wins on 50/50 and contract length — very important stuff —but then all this other vital stuff gets left alone.’’
The same agent feels that Gary Bettman will soon be moved from his job. He would never be fired, but maybe in a year or two shift to another front office job, some advisory role. Bill Daly would be obvious choice to replace Bettman.
More informational sessions today, could lead to bargaining … 2 AHLers’ suspensed … Video: sweet shootout goal
- John Shannon via twitter: Confirms that today’s meeting in New York will be face-to-face. Not sure if it will just be informational or actual negotiations. No actual bargaining sessions are scheduled yet. Michael Grange via twitter: Grange also confirms meetings. Adds that a counter offer may get pushed back to Monday.
- David Pagnotta via twitter: There is a lot of info in the NHL’s offer that the NHLPA needs to go over. It will take some time for official negotiating to get going.
- Eric Stephens via twitter: Bill Daly last night on talks resuming this [morning], ”No bargaining yet. We’ll see where it goes tomorrow.”
- TSN: There will be at least 3 informational sessions today. Some participants will be via a conference call, others are face-to-face. Dreger noted that that the informational discussions may lead to bargaining today. No bargaining took place yesterday.
- Tom Gulitti of the Bergon Record: Sources are saying that once the NHL season starts or is cancelled, the Devils will refinance the teams debt. Brick City LLC shares will be transferred to Jeff Vanderbeek, who will then own 94% of the team. Peter Simon will own the remaining 6%. The deal is basically done, needing just the be reviewed by NHL attorneys, who are obviously preoccupied with the lockout.
- Joe Haggerty via twitter: Haggerty is hearing that some NHL staff have been called to their respective cities for a mid-January start.
- AHL: Bridgeport forward Brett Gallant as suspended for 3 games for leaving the bench on an illegal line change to start an altercation. Connecticut defenseman Dylan McIlrath was suspended for 2 games for elbowing.
- A nasty move by Mike Ratchuk in a shootout.
- Eklund on HockeyBuzz: Reported at 3:45 this morning that the NHL made a new offer to the NHLPA that included movement on player contracts from 5 to 6 years, yearly variance from 5% to 10%, with ‘make whole’ remaining at $300 million.
- Pierre LeBrun via twitter: A player confirms to LeBrun that the NHL did make an offer to the players with movement on term limits, buyouts and variance. Bill Daly would not confirm the offer. The NHL’s offer includes a 6 year contract limit on free agents, 7 years if you are re-signing one of your own. Offer also includes 1 compliance buyout before the 2013-14 season that doesn’t count against the salary cap but counts against the players share. ‘Make whole’ remains at $300 million and variance at 10%. NHL’s offer still calls for a $60 million salary cap for 2013-14, which could lead to an escrow issue for the players.
- Pierre LeBrun via twitter: There are no meetings schedule just yet between the two sides as the NHLPA needs time to go over the detailed offer.
- Darren Dreger via twitter: “Hard to imagine the NHL’s latest proposal doesn’t result in potentially season-saving meetings. Players wanted flexibility and they got it.”
Lamoriello doesn’t know why he’s not involved this time … Raymond signs overseas … Bergeron and Karlson heading home
- John Shannon via twitter: There has been communication between the NHL and NHLPA, but no meetings scheduled.
- L.A. Lariviere via twitter: From one source close to the negotiations: ”(PA) is always available, but has heard nothing from NHL indicating interest in meeting.”
- Rich Chere of The Star-Ledger: Devils Lou Lamoriello on the lockout:
“I’m embarrassed for the game.”
“It’s coming down to the wire right now,” Lamoriello said. “We’ve just got to trust the people that are involved. I’m embarrassed we are where we’re at. That’s the best expression I can use.”
On if he thought the lockout would take this long.
“I really didn’t know. Like everybody, I hoped not,” Lamoriello said, “but we are where we are right now and we’re getting to the 11th hour. I’m just hopeful everything can work out.”
Lamoriello was active during negotiations in past lockouts, but not this time.
“I’m not involved the way I was in the past. I can’t answer why,” he said.
- The Fourth Period: The lockout will reach 108 days by January 1st. The players will have lost $775 million in salaries by then. $1.476 billion and $1.64 billion in league revenues will be lost.
“There are no meetings scheduled,” Daly said via email. “I (still) don’t have any expectations at this point.”
- Randy Sportak of the Calgary Sun: Flames Jiri Hudler took a skate to the neck while playing in the Czech league. Hudler was lucky as he only needed a couple stitches.
- Matias Strozyk via twitter: Canucks Mason Raymond signed with Allsvenskan’s Orebro for 11 games. His contract starts on January 3rd and runs through February 2nd.
- Jimmy Murphy via twitter: Bruins Patrice Bergeron will be returning from Switzerland in January.
- Helsingin Jokerit via twitter: Erik Karlson has returned to Sweden to wait for the lockout to end. He won’t play for Jokerit in January.
- TSN: Bill Daly said he hadn’t spoken with Steve Fehr as of yesterday evening.
“Nothing today,” NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told The Associated Press in an email Sunday night. “Don’t know whether we will speak before the holiday.”
They spoke on Saturday, but nothing came out of the talks.
- Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun: Garrioch notes that if the NHL season gets underway, to not expect Sergei Gonchar to finish the season with the Senators. The Pittsburgh Penguins may target Gonchar, who is in the last year of his deal that will pay him $5.5 million. League sources are saying the Penguins are looking to bring him back. Penguins GM Ray Shero didn’t want to lose Gonchar before, but wouldn’t go to 3 years like the Senators did. The Sens won’t want to just give him away. Their blueline will already be without Jared Cowen, who had season ending hip surgery.
- Boston Globe: Bruins defenseman Adam McQuaid had 2 surgeries in October and would have been out until sometime in January, maybe February. He had one surgery for a blood clot under his collarbone and another surgery a couple weeks later to hopefully help prevent another one. A rib was removed and part of his neck muscle.
- John Buccigross via twitter: Posted the video.
- TSN: Bill Daly and Steve Fehr spoke on the phone yesterday, but still have no plans to meet face to face.
- John Shannon via twitter: It was the first time since last Tuesday that Daly and Fehr have spoken. It is unlikely that they will meet before Christmas. Talks could resume on the 26th or 27th.
- David Staples of the Edmonton Journal: Matias Strozyk reported that Ales Hemsky, Jakub Kindl and David Krejci have left Pardubice. Hemsky’s insurance ran out, and it’s possible that he and Krejci return in the new year if the NHL season is cancelled.
NHL cancels games through Jan. 14th … Players vote ends today … Who will represent the players if disclaim or decertify?
The NHL cancelled games through January 14th.
- Daniel Tolensky via twitter: The NHL has cancelled 17.7% of games since October 2004 (1 in every 5.6) and 10.6% of games since October 1994 (1 in every 9.4).
- Kevin Kurz via twitter: “When this ends, players will have lost at least 40% of 1 year’s pay, and get 50% of what will be reduced future $. Great leadership, Don.”
- Josh Cooper via twitter: Hal Gill on the last batch of cancelled games: “Maybe they are waiting for the Mayan predictions to get them off the hook”
- John Shannon via twitter: There was no contact between the NHL and NHLPA yesterday. Players voting period ends today. Shannon wonders if both sides are in a holding pattern.
- Renaud Lavoie via twitter: Yesterday was the 2nd day in a row with no communication. They have only spoke twice in the last week.
- Daren Millard via twitter: “Partners told puck must drop jan 14th, means D.D. Date 8 to 10 earlier. Let’s hope for a ny eve resolution”
- Adrian Dater via twitter: If there will be a season, expect a start date of January 15th. That is a pay day for the players and the NHL doesn’t want to start in February.
- Chris Johnston via twitter: A court summons says that the NHLPA has to respond by January 7th to the NHL’s class-action suit.
- Darren Dreger via twitter: Player voting ends today. If they will go forward with the disclaimer of interest or to decertify, Don Fehr will no longer represent the players. Will the lawyers negotiate for them? Dreger wonders if the players will use Fehr as a consultant. “Sounds as time-wasting as both sides not talking with the season clearly in jeopardy.”
- Sean Fitz-Gerald via twitter: Bill Daly on Edmonton radio: ”Realignment is something that is going to have to be done, and accommodated, at some point”
- Aaron Portzline via twitter: Portzline has said many times that the Blue Jackets are “a very poor argument for revenue sharing. They’ve spent lots of money on players in recent seasons, haven’t won. Fans in Columbus have been treated to two lockouts, one playoff series, no playoff wins. Team was out of it by U.S. Thanksgiving in 2011-12.”
- Aaron Portzline via twitter: Derick Brassard left his Austrian team without their permission, agent Allan Walsh had this to say: ”Derick Brassard is the 5th NHL player to sign with Red Bull this season and the 5th player to leave within 3 weeks of arrival. Talk to Tobias Enstrom, David Clarkson, Derek Dorsett or any of Red Bull’s current players. There is no more unprofessional organization in all of Europe. The club is misrepresenting the facts in an attempt to justify to their fans and media why NHL players keep leaving.”
- Fan 590 Radio (Audio): Click the link to listen to Don Fehr on the Jeff Blair show yesterday morning, talking about the vote on disclaimer of interest, a deadline showdown, and lack of negotiations.
- Jeff Simmons of Sportsnet.ca: Bill Daly was on Hockey Central @ Noon yesterday. (Don Fehr was on the Fan 590 before this interview)
“I don’t think there is a date circled,” Daly said of a potential drop-dead date for a new deal. “Obviously as we’re moving towards end of December, we have to get realistic on how many games we can play. (Gary Bettman) is on record saying we’re not looking to playing less than 48 games.”
“They proposed compliance buyouts. They proposed a cap on escrow. Those are all money outside the system. In addition to the $300 million that we’re giving on top of the 50-50 that makes it not 50-50, they’re asking for more dollars outside of the system … Until we settle all the financials, to suggest we have a 50-50 split is wrong and not accurate.”
- Jeff Simmons on Sportsnet.ca: Don Fehr spoke again yesterday about the lockout before last night’s charity hockey game.
“(We aren’t talking) because the owners have not indicated a desire to resume,” the NHLPA’s executive director said Wednesday night before a charity game. “We’ve indicated any number of times that we’re willing to resume when they are (and) we’re willing to resume without preconditions. …
“So we’re waiting to hear back from them.”
Sides briefly talk, no meeting scheduled … Games expected to be cancelled this week … Games need to start by Jan. 20th
- Eric Macramalla via twitter: “NHL digging in suggests that a number of teams facing challenges under current system; record revenues doesn’t mean record profitability”
- John Shannon via twitter: The NHL and NHLPA did talk briefly yesterday as Steve Fehr made a call to Bill Daly.
- Pierre LeBrun of ESPN: Though they talked on the phone yesterday, there are no talks scheduled. LeBrun doesn’t think the NHL will go back to negotiating until the NHLPA has a new proposal or new idea to at least talk about. A player sent a text to LeBrun,
“Wait a minute, we made the last offer [Dec. 6] and they still think it’s our turn to make the next move? Makes no sense.”
Ever since the players-owners meeting at the beginning of the month, the NHL may be thinking that since the NHLPA didn’t like comprises they were offering, that Don Fehr is waiting for mid-January (the 11th hour) to make his move. This is why the NHL may not be moving off their offer.
More games are expected to be cancelled later this week, possibly the last batch of games before the season is cancelled. In order to get in a 48-50 games season, they’ll need to start around January 20th. They’ll have the first 7 to 10 days in January to get a deal done.
- Katie Strang of ESPN: According to Steve Fehr, there hasn’t been any contact with Bill Daly since Friday, with no meeting scheduled. All it would take to get back to the negotiating table …
“A phone call,” Fehr told ESPNNewYork.com when reached via telephone Monday evening. “I had the impression when we ended the session on Thursday that they had nothing more to say at this time. As soon as they’re ready, we’re ready.”
“We are ready, willing, able and eager to negotiate,” Fehr said. “We want to get an agreement and we want to get it done as soon as possible.”
- Louis Jean via twitter: Bill Daly on avoiding litigation: “We obviously think its important for the Union & the Players to focus on returning to the bargaining table. That is the safest and most expeditious way to a deal.”
- Louis Jean via twitter: Bill Daly said he has ”no intention to contact them as they understand where we are.”
- Pierre LeBrun via twitter: Bill Daly: “We will continue to explore options for moving the process forward, and we hope the Players’ Association is doing the same. Time is obviously getting short.”
- Nick Cotsonika via twitter: Bill Daly pointed out in Friday’s conference call that the NHLPA is still asking for a $67.25 million salary cap ceiling that never goes down, plus having compliance buyouts and escrow caps. Daly called them “very significant dollar issues.” Daly added that the disclaimer could ”clearly put the season in jeopardy” in his opinion.
- Nick Cotsonika via twitter: Bill Daly: “We believe we’ve made a lot of significant moves in the players’ direction almost on a repeated basis from really the start of the lockout to this point. And at some point, you get to the stage where you’ve basically you’ve put your best offer on the table and you hope it gains some traction, and I think it’s safe to say that’s the feeling at this point.“
- Darren Dreger via twitter: The mediator will talk with the NHLPA this morning. If he concludes that a deal could be close, he will suggest having another meeting. If he doesn’t, negotiations go back to square one.
- Katie Strang of ESPN: Yesterday meetings between the NHL and NHLPA ended with Bill Daly saying that there was “no conclusion” to the process, and with the players feeling the NHL won’t negotiate. There are no meetings scheduled. Don Fehr will speak with the mediator this morning. The meetings lasted about six hours yesterday, with Fehr saying,
“All I am going to say is there wasn’t any change in position,” Fehr said.
Several sources have said the NHL is standing by it’s ”take-it-or-leave-it” position. Daly said in an email that the NHL never put a last offer on the table. The sides met separately with the mediator.
- Michael Russo of the Star Tribune: Russo was told that the mediators met with the NHL for about 15-20 minutes, and hours with the players. The league has insisted there isn’t a communication issue. The owners are holding pat on their “proposal was 50/50, 10-year CBA, $300 million Make Whole, 5-year max deals (7 to re-sign your own player) and 5% variances in salary per year.” The owners may be done negotiating, and the players will need determine if the it’s worth throwing away their salaries this season.
- Rich Chere via twitter: Brendan Morrison: ”I think discouraged is a good word. Frustrated. It’s bargaining. There has to be give and take.”
- James Mirtle via twitter: Mirtle thinks that this will go the distance, with 2 to 3 weeks of silliness.
- Tim Panaccio via twitter: Panaccio thinks that if the NHL is done negotiating off their last offer, the only thing left is a “drop dead” date to put pressure on the NHLPA.
- Nick Cotsonika via twitter: Some facts haven’t changed after yesterday’s meetings. They are closer than ever, but still trying to squeeze every last drop, and still playing chicken. The next move is on the players.
- David Pagnotta via twitter: Some people think a deal can get done this month, while others think it won’t be done until mid-January. There is still a lot of work for them to do, and some big issues haven’t been discussed yet.
- NHLPA via twitter: 11 players were at yesterday’s meetings: Adams, Aucoin, Boyes, Campoli, Darche, Doan, Hainsey, Mayers, A. McDonald, Montador, B. Morrison, D. Murray, Winnik.
Mediators will be at today’s meetings … A “sum-zero amnesty buyout” option by Allen … Teams calling employees
- Tom Gulitti via twitter: The NHL wasn’t interested in having the federal mediators when the NHLPA offered last week, but this week Daly said, “Different circumstances. Different stage of negotiations.”
- Tim Panaccio via twitter: The NHLPA said there will be no media scrums after this session of talks.
- Chris Johnston via twitter: Bill Daly said that he has “no expectations” for the meeting with the NHLPA.
- Larry Brooks of the NY Post: The owners are not looking to include amnesty buyouts in the new CBA. They are looking to bring the salary cap ceiling down from $70.2 to $60 million, more than a 14.5 percent drop. This could pose a big challenge to at least 10 teams. The Flyers would have $7.5 million to fill eight spots after Chris Pronger is put on LTIR. The Canucks would have $4.6 million for 10 roster spots. The Canadiens would be over the cap with seven spots to fill. The Penguins would have $7.4 million for eight spots. The Lightning would have $2.5 million for eight spots. The Bruins would be in big trouble. The Rangers would have $2.7 million for seven players if they are forced to count Wade Redden’s contract. The NHLPA could propose a “sum-zero amnesty buyout.” It could work where it wouldn’t cost the owners a dime outside of the 50-50:
Players bought out under this program before this season at either one-third or two-thirds depending upon their age could be re-signed only for the difference between the buyout amount and the full contract. The entire amount would count against the players’ collective share but the buyout team would not be charged a cap hit.
- Greg Wyshynski via twitter: Wyshynski is hearing that two more teams have called their staff back or have them on standby. That is four teams total. This could just be a precaution as things will happen fast if a deal gets done.