Posts Tagged Marian Hossa

Hossa has ‘upper-body’ injury … Canucks blueline getting thin … Polak has surgery … Latendresse out with bad groin

  • Tim Sassone of the Daily Herald: Blackhawks forward Marian Hossa left last night’s game in the 2nd period and didn’t return. Hossa suffered an upper-body injury and will be re-evaluated today.
  • Iain MacIntyre of the Vancouver Sun: The Vancouver Canucks could be without another defenseman as Andrew Alberts did not practice yesterday after injuring his knee against the Avalanche, an MRI is scheduled for today. The Canucks are already without Sami Salo (Achilles), Keith Ballard (concussion) and Dan Hamhuis (foot). Hamhuis is still unable to skate.
  • Joe Haggerty via twitter: Bruins coach Claude Julian on Marc  Savard and Marco Sturm, “More encouraging lately, but still a ways away. Don’t think you’ll see either 1[practicing] in the next week or so.”
  • Jonas Siegel via twitter: Toronto Maple Leafs winger Kris Versteeg is day-to-day with a back issue, but should ready to go tonight versus the Bruins.
  • Andy Strickland of True Hockey: Filip Kuba is expected to start practicing with the Ottawa Senators soon. He’s been skating on his own lately, as he’s recovering from breaking a non-weight bearing bone in his leg. Pascal Leclaire could be 4-7 days away from returning.
  • Ken Warren of the Ottawa Citizen: Jason Spezza skated on his own yesterday, but not with the team. He’s out for tonight, and has missed 4 games so far this season with the groin injury. They are hoping for a Saturday return.

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NHL offers ultimatum to NHLPA … Kovalchuk’s, Loungo’s and Hossa’s contract are front and center

  • Larry Brooks of the NY Post: Rather than attempting to summarize the main points, click on the link to read Brooks’ entire article, it’s a must read for all.
    The NHL has given the NHL Players Association an ultimatum regarding not only the contested, front-loaded, long-term contract between the Devils and Ilya Kovalchuk, but of similar contracts the league registered last summer between the Blackhawks and Marian Hossa, and between the Canucks and goaltender Roberto Luongo.
  • Tom Gulitti via twitter: The NHL and NHLPA have been talking since the August 9th Bloch ruling about long-term contract and amending the CBA.
  • SpectorsHockey via twitter: With the NHLPA currently lacking direction and fire, the League may be looking to “squeeze what it can from the PA”.
  • Larry Brooks via twitter: On the possible ‘de-registering’ of Roberto Luongo’s contract, the Canucks would have no say or appeal, the NHLPA would have to file the grievance.
  • Dmitry Chesnokov via twitter: The Blackhawks would be extremely upset if Marian Hossa’s contract is voided considering all the moves they had to make to get under the cap.
  • SpectorsHockey via twitter: The contracts of Chris Pronger and Marc Savard apparently won’t be voided. Richardson wonders if the weight the teams’ owners carry with the League has anything to do with it. Jeremy Jacobs is the president of the NHL Board of Governors. The Flyers Ed Snider is also considered very influential.
  • Darren Dreger via twitter: Dreger wouldn’t be surprised if Kovalchuk’s Friday extension is extended beyond Friday. Though a longshot, the amended rule could be in place by the end of the weekend.
  • Jason Botchford of the Vancouver Province: The League had told the Canucks to take 2 years off of Roberto Luongo’s contract when it was signed. The Canucks obviously didn’t, and the NHL only “conditionally accepted the contract”. A third party law firm was brought in to question some of the Canucks management. If there was any wrongdoing found, the League probably would have acted on it by now.
  • Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun: There is belief that Gary Bettman could be worried that Kovalchuk could jump ship. Also …
    League sources say the Kovalchuk decision isn’t “just about him” because “the structure of the contract is going to go a long way in deciding what is going to happen with the other deals being investigated.”
    “There is something bigger at work here,” said one league executive. “Perhaps they want to get all these deals resolved at once, so that the league and the players can put all this uncertainty behind them.”

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Notes on Kovalchuk and the NHL’s investigation of contracts

  • Dmitry Chesnokov via twitter: Kovalchuk’s mom thinks the contract with the Devils will be reworked before the start of the season, and that he isn’t panicking.
  • ESPN: The Devils are working on another deal for Kovalchuk. “We want Ilya to be a Devil,” Lamoriello said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday. “We will do everything possible to achieve that.”
  • James Mirtle via twitter: Nothing from the Kings yet if the 15-year offer is still on the table for Kovalchuk. Mirtle thinks there is a small chance their in it.
  • Joe Haggerty via twitter: The NHL is looking into Marc Savard’s contract from a statement from the Bruins and Peter Chiarelli. Chiarelli met with the NHL back on Aug. 4th.
  • Larry Brooks via twitter: Brooks wonders how the NHL can investigate these contracts without a ‘systems arbitrator? “CBA says it can’t. Of course it doesn’t matter what’s in CBA.”
  • Nick Kyreos via twitter: The contracts of Hossa, Pronger, Savard and Luongo have been continuously investigated by the NHL since they were registered.
  • Matthew Sekeres of the Globe and Mail: Could the Canucks be okay with Roberto Luongo’s contract being voided by the NHL? They wouldn’t be on the hook paying him until 2021-22, and there would competition where Cory Schneider could take over the number one at some point. A problem the Canucks could also face, is getting him under contract, and under the cap, given that his current cap hit would be $5.33 million, he’d want to sign for more than that.
  • Elliott Pap of the Vancouver Sun: Player agent, Kurt Overhardt, doesn’t think the NHL will void Luongo’s, or any of the other three contracts they are looking into. Overhardt felt that Bloch’s decision was ‘subjective’, that nothing in the document said they were in violation of the CBA. The other deals have already been registered by the league. “Any and all speculation that the league is going to claw back these other contracts … would be in complete violation of the collective bargaining agreement and it would be a complete infringement of the players’ rights under the CBA,” Overhardt continued. “Any attempt to do so would be absolutely predatory behaviour by the league, would be in bad faith and not in the spirit of the CBA.”
  • Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun: An agent has said the NHL won’t rip up the contracts of Pronger, Hossa, Luongo and Savard…

    “The NHL isn’t going to do anything with these deals. Nothing is going to happen,” said the agent. “They’ve been trying to investigate most of these deals for a year.”

    “I can tell you they certainly aren’t going to rip up a contract that has already been signed and approved by the league.

    “That’s the difference: The deal that Kovalchuk signed was never approved by the league. The rest of these deals passed the smell test.”

  • Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press: The Red Wings haven’t been contacted by the league regarding the contracts of Henrik Zetterberg and Johan Franzen. “Last October or November, the league requested and we sent all the paperwork in about the negotiations,” Holland said. “Since the Kovalchuk thing, no one has said boo to us about it.”

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Fallout from the Ilya Kovalchuk decision

  • Elliott Pap of the Vancouver Sun: Due to the Kovalchuk ruling; Roberto Luongo, Chris Pronger, Marian Hossa, and Marc Savard’s front loaded contracts could come under review. Mike Gillis confirmed that Luongo’s contract is under review by the NHL. Luongo signed a 12 year deal that will take him to the age of 43, where he’ll earn $1 million, down from the $10 million he’ll earn next  season. Arbitrator Bloch wrote, “[Luongo] has a 12-year agreement that will end when he is 43. After averaging some $7,000,000 per year for the first 9 years of the Agreement, Luongo will receive an average of about 1.2 million during his last 3 years, amounting to some 5.7% of the total compensation during that time period.”
  • Greg Wyshynski of Puck Daddy: It seems farfetched that the NHL could backtrack and nix the Marian Hossa deal, as he’s already a year into it. Pronger, Luongo, and Savard’s deals have all not started yet. Johan Franzen and Henrik Zetterberg’s deals are also a year in.
  • James Mirtle of the Globe and Mail: The decision noted about Pronger’s, Luongo’s, Hossa’s and Savard’s deals; “Those players’ contracts are being investigated currently with at least the possibility of a subsequent withdrawal of the registration.” Agents are alarmed that some contracts are being investigated that are already in effect.

    “I’ve never heard of a contract that had been registered and approved and then having that registration withdrawn,” said one agent, who requested to remain anonymous.

    “The league has two months now to go after Savard, Pronger and Luongo [whose contract extensions began July 1]. Until they start getting paid, they’ve got two months.”

    Lou Lamoriello confirmed that theyare  in discussions with Kovalchuk’s agent. The Kings could also re-enter, they had a 15-year deal worth $80 million ($5.33 million cap hit) on the table before Kovalchuk signed with the Devils. The KHL is still an option, but a long shot.

  • A couple weeks ago we compared some of the long term contracts of the players noted above, take a look at their year-to-year breakdown.

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Top 30 Salary Cap Numbers – Right Wingers

Listed below are the Top 30 Salary Cap Hits for right wingers heading into the 2010-11 NHL Season. We’ve used the salary cap number over the total salary for this season, due to the front loading of contracts. If a free agent signs and makes the list, we’ll update accordingly, but that is unlikely to happen.

Take a look at Top 30 salary cap numbers by position:

Centers | Left Wingers | Right Wingers | Defenseman | Goaltenders

Rk. Player Team Age 2010-11 Cap Hit 2010-11 Salary
1 Jarome Iginla Calgary 32 $7,000,000 $7,000,000
2 Daniel Briere Philadelphia 32 $6,500,000 $7,000,000
3 Patrick Kane Chicago 21 $6,300,000 $6,500,000
4 Phil Kessel Toronto 22 $5,400,000 $6,000,000
5 Corey Perry Anaheim 25 $5,325,000 $5,375,000
6 Jason Pominville Buffalo 27 $5,300,000 $5,500,000
7 Martin St. Louis Tampa Bay 35 $5,250,000 $4,000,000
8 Marian Hossa Chicago 31 $5,233,000 $7,900,000
9 Brian Rolston New Jersey 37 $5,062,000 $5,000,000
T10 Brian Gionta Montreal 31 $5,000,000 $5,000,000
Alexei Kovalev Ottawa 37 $5,000,000 $5,000,000
12 Daniel Alfredsson Ottawa 37 $4,875,000 $7,000,000
13 Shane Doan Phoenix 33 $4,550,000 $4,550,000
14 Teemu Selanne Anaheim 40 $4,500,000 $3,250,000
15 Joffrey Lupul Anaheim 26 $4,250,000 $4,250,000
16 Scott Hartnell Philadelphia 28 $4,200,000 $4,200,000
17 Ales Hemsky Edmonton 26 $4,100,000 $4,500,000
T18 Michael Ryder Boston 30 $4,000,000 $4,000,000
Jean-Pierre Dumont Nashville 32 $4,000,000 $4,000,000
20 Steve Sullivan Nashville 35 $3,750,000 $3,750,000
21 Ryane Clowe San Jose 27 $3,625,000 $3,500,000
22 Justin Williams Los Angeles 28 $3,500,000 $3,500,000
23 Dainius Zubrus New Jersey 32 $3,400,000 $3,400,000
24 Dustin Brown Los Angeles 25 $3,175,000 $3,500,000
25 Kris Versteeg Toronto 24 $3,083,000 $3,083,000
T26 Dustin Byfuglien Atlanta 25 $3,000,000 $3,000,000
Ales Kotalik Calgary 31 $3,000,000 $3,000,000
Milan Hejduk Colorado 34 $3,000,000 $3,000,000
Radim Vrbata Phoenix 29 $3,000,000 $3,000,000
Colby Armstrong Toronto 27 $3,000,000 $3,000,000

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A comparison of NHL Contracts that are front-loaded

After the Kovalchuk contract rejection by the NHL for circumventing the cap, we’ve put together a chart showing the salary numbers for contracts that have been called in to question for being front-loaded, but were allowed to go through.

    Johan Franzen, Red Wings, 11 years, $43.5M ($3.9M cap hit), Signed April 2009
    Henrik Zetterberg, Red Wings, 12 years, $73M ($6M cap hit), Signed January 2009
    Marian Hossa, Blackhawks, 12 years, $62.8M ($5.23M cap hit), Signed July 2009
    Roberto Luongo, Canucks, 12 years, $64M ($5.3M cap hit), Signed September 2009
    Chris Pronger, Flyers, 7-year extension, $34.9M ($5M cap hit), Signed July 2009
    Marc Savard, Bruins, 7-year extension, $28.05M ($4M cap hit), Signed Dec. 2009

Players current age is in brackets.

Season
Kovalchuk (27)
Pronger (35)
Savard (32)
Hossa (31)
Luongo (31)
Franzen (30)
Zetterberg (29)
2010-11
$6 mill
$7.6 mill
$7 mill
$7.9 mill
$10 mill
$5 mill
$7.75 mill
2011-12
$6 mill
$7.6 mill
$7 mill
$7.9 mill
$6.716 mill
$5.25 mill
$7.75 mill
2012-13
$11.5 mill
$7.2 mill
$6.5 mill
$7.9 mill
$6.714 mill
$5.25 mill
$7.75 mill
2013-14
$11.5 mill
$7 mill
$5 mill
$7.9 mill
$6.714 mill
$5 mill
$7.5 mill
2014-15
$11.5 mill
$4 mill
$1.5 mill
$7.9 mill
$6.714 mill
$5 mill
$7.5 mill
2015-16
$11.5 mill
$525,000
$525,000
$7.9 mill
$6.714 mill
$5 mill
$7.5 mill
2016-17
$11.5 mill
$525,000
$525,000
$4 mill
$6.714 mill
$3.5 mill
$7 mill
2017-18
$10.5 mill
$1 mill
$6.714 mill
$2 mill
$3.5 mill
2018-19
$8.5 mill
$1 mill
$3.382 mill
$1 mill
$1 mill
2019-20
$6.5 mill
$750,000
$1.618 mill
$1 mill
$1 mill
2020-21
$3.5 mill
$750,000
$1 mill
2021-22
$750,000
$1 mill
2022-23
$550,000
2023-24
$550,000
2024-25
$550,000
2025-26
$550,000
2026-27
$550,000

Salaries from NHLnumbers.com

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Around the Boards: Bobby Ryan, Patrick Sharp a last resort, Hossa returns and DiPietro practices

  • Eric Stephens of the OC Register: Bobby Ryan and the Anaheim Ducks are far apart in their contract talks, and won’t be discussing anytime soon. Ryan had hoped to sign an extension before the season started, but Ducks management wanted to see if he could back up his rookie year with another solid year before committing long term, and probably the dollar amount he’s seaking.
  • Elliotte Friedman of CBCSports: As an absolute last resort, the Blackhawks might have trade Patrick Sharp.
  • Chris Kuc of the Chicago Tribune: Marian Hossa will make his Blackhawks debut tonight, and will be lined up with Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane.
  • Steven Marcus of Newsday: Islanders goalie Rick DiPietro had a full practice yesterday, and barring any set back will return sometime next month after playing a few games in the AHL. Once he’s ready to return, the Isles will most likely look to trading one of their three NHL caliber goalies, with Martin Biron the most likley candidate.

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Around the Boards: Phil Kessel, Sam Gagne, Alex Ovechkin, Patrick Elias Updates, Wisniewski Suspended

  • Mark Zwolinski of the Toronto Star: Phil Kessel is expected to receive clearance from doctors this morning to make his Toronto Maple Leafs debut tonight against the Tampa Bay Lightning. Kessel has been skating with Jason Blake and Matt Stajan. The problem I see with this line is that both Blake and Kessel like to shoot the puck a lot. It will be interesting to see how Stajan handles both shooters.
  • Sam Carchidi of the Philadelphia Inquirer: Sam Gagne will be out of the Flyers lineup for 6-8 weeks after his hernia and abdominal surgery today. Though he definitely will be missed, it creates an opportunity for some of the Flyers younger kids to step up. Also, Daniel Briere hope to practice tomorrow, with the goal of playing on Friday.
  • Corey Masisak of the Washington Times: Alexander Ovechkin is listed as wee-to-week with an upper body strain. Brooks Laich take Ovechkin’s spot on the line with Mike Knuble and Brendan Morrison.
  • Tim Sassone of the Daily Herald: Jonathan Toews is still not allowed to skate, no timetable on his return has been set. There’s a chance that Marian Hossa returns before November 25th.
  • Pat Hickey of the Montreal Gazette: Struggling Canadiens winger Andrei Kostitsyn has been demoted to 4th line. Kostitsyn has only 1 goal and 3 assists in 14 games, and received only 7:32 minutes of ice time on Saturday.
  • Curtis Zupke of the OC Register: Anaheim Ducks defenceman James Wisniewski was suspended for 2 games for his elbow on Shane Doan.
  • Rich Chere of The Star-Ledger: Patrick Elias for the first time this season with the Devils and is eying a weekend return the lineup. He’ll give the Devils a much needed offensive jolt.
  • Brian Mullen of the Nashville Tennessean: Shea Weber will be out the Nashville Predators lineup for 1 to 2 weeks.
  • Ben Kuzma of the Vancouver Province: Matt Pettinger signed on for his second stint with the Vancouver Canucks after inking a 1 year, 2-way, $500k contract.

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Around the Boards: Sun. Nov. 1st

  • Jay Zawaski of Chicago Now: Marian Hossa has started skating with the Blackhawks, but is not expected to return until the end of November. They are also not going to rush Toews back.
  • Sam Carchidi of the Philadelphia Inquirer: The play of James van Riemsdyk and Matt Carle has moved them both into consideration for US Olympic team according Brian Burke.
  • Scott Morrison of CBCSports.ca: The Detroit Red Wings might be starting to look at trading for a goalie as they don’t appear to be that happy with the play of both Chris Osgood and Jimmy Howard.
  • James Mirtle of the Globe and Mail: The Maple Leafs top 2 goalies appear to be back healthy for the moment, but how they will fair remains to be seen. According to Burke, “If one of [Gustavsson or Toskala] doesn’t emerge as the guy or both of them, if they can’t emerge as a tandem, then we’re going to have to go look for a goaltender. We can’t fix the goaltending situation until we figure out what we have.”

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Hossa Injured; Surgery Possible

Marian Hossa has a right rotator cuff injury that apparently happened during the playoffs while playing for the Detroit Red Wings. The severity of the injury is not known but surgery isn’t out of the question at this point.(source-ESPN Chicago)

The Chicago Blackhawks were aware of the injury when they signed Hossa, which makes the signing even more perplexing then it already was. The ‘Hawks finished 2nd in the Western Conference in goals for last season with 264, behind only the Red Wings with 295, and tied for 4th overall in the league with the Penguins. Although they did lose 29 goals when Martin Havlat left, the numbers suggest more skilled scorers wasn’t really what the ‘Hawks needed. When you consider the much talked about cap issues the ‘Hawks face, the Hossa signing will really hinder them when the time comes to sign Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews.

The only point of view I can think of to put a little silver lining on this situation for ‘Hawks fans is that perhaps the injury happened early in the playoffs and can explain Hossa’s ineffectiveness in the finals against the Pittsburgh Penguins. In the 7 game final series Hossa had a total of zero goals and 3 assists for the losing Detroit Red Wings and was mostly invisible.

It’s great to score 40 goals in 74 games during the regular season but at that rate he should have scored around 12 or 13 goals in the 23 playoff games he played in for Detroit. He recorded a total of 6 goals in the 23 playoff games for the ‘Wings. In fact, of those 6 goals none were game tying goals and only 1 was a game winner and that came all the way back in the second period of game 4 of the second round against The Anaheim Ducks, a 6-3 win to tie the series, not even an overtime goal.

That silver lining might be end up being sprayed on upon closer inspection, but if you consider that Hossa had 12 goals and 26 points the previous year in the playoffs while with the Penguins, there is reason to hope that a healthy Hossa could help push the Blackhawks to the next level.

I’m of the opinion that unless Hossa can play goaltender too the money could have been used more wisely.

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Marian Hossa will not return to Detroit

  • Ken Holland tells EJ Hradek that he is “Not optimistic that Marian Hossa will remain in Detroit”. Hradek thinks the LA Kings will make a serious play for Hossa, and dont forget the offer Edmonton made last summer.

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Red Wings offer Hossa long term deal

Bruce Garrioch of Sun Media reports that the Detroit Red Wings have offered a long term, lucrative offer to Marian Hossa and are awaiting a response.. Also more on Jay Bouwmeester..

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