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Posts Tagged Seth Jones
- Gare Joyce: On the Flames offer of all 3 1st picks for the 1st overall pick. Flames would pick Nathan MacKinnon over Seth Jones as a it’s position of need. “Trade would never get made. Picks and a player of established value, then a discussion. Otherwise non-starter.” Sean Monahan would be the Flames fallback with the 6th selection. Could look to Nashville at No. 4 to get Aleksander Barkov. The Flames don’t have ’that’ player of established value to make the deal. The Hurricanes could be the wildcard as they are not taking Valeri Nichushkin. They might take Barkov if he’s there. They are looking for immediate help.
- Adrian Dater: Dater has heard along that if the Avalanche trade down from the 1st overall, they still want to remain in the top 3. To trade down, the Avalanche also want a very good established player or two, as well as the 2nd or 3rd overall pick. The Panthers and Lightning have the 2nd and 3rd overall picks, and are not really interested in giving up an established player plus their own pick to get the 1st overall. Dater thinks at this time, it’s more likely that the Avalanche will keep the 1st overall pick. There was no chance the Avalanche would accept the Flames offer, as they hate the Flames for the Ryan O’Reilly offer sheet.
- John Vogl of Buffalo News: The Sabres are trying to move up from the 8th overall pick in this year’s draft, according to their director of amateur scouting, Kevin Devine, “We’re really trying to move up.” To get the No. 1 pick, the Sabres could make a deal with the Predators at No. 4, then make a deal with the Avalanche for the No. 1. The Sabres also have the No. 16 pick, a pair of 2nd round picks (No. 38 and 53), as well as Ryan Miller and Thomas Vanek.
“The preliminary talks are that everybody’s talking about our young players to move up,” Devine said during an appearance on WGR 550 AM. “We’ve got to decide if it makes sense to move some of those players to move up. So it’s a difficult conversation, but if you’re really honed in on one guy and he can be a franchise changer, then you have to look at it.”
- Elliotte Friedman: Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli said that the Andrew Raycroft trade to the Maple Leafs was going to be either Tuukka Rask or Jiri Tlusty. The Leafs wanted it to be Tlusty, while the Bruins wanted Rask.
- Naoko Funayama: Bruins Gregory Campbell had successful surgery on his broken right fibula.
- Jeremy Rutherford of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: The Blues have told Vladimir Tarasenko that he must improve his conditioning.
“We’ve given him a clear mandate on what we expect when he gets back here, what we’re going to see from him on a conditioning level, the grind that he’s going to have to do,” Blues general manager Doug Armstrong said recently.
- Gare Joyce: Joyce spoke with three scouts on Monday. None had Seth Jones at No. 1. Two didn’t have him at No. 2. One had him at No. 4 behind Barkov.
- Mike Heika of the Dallas Morning News: Heika on the Sergei Gonchar trade/signing for the Stars:
Had this happened last summer, I would’ve pooh-poohed the trade and said, “No way, too old.” But watching Ray Whitney last season, watching Jagr last season, these guys can do it. I don’t know how they do it, but they keep themselves in shape and I guess when you’re that level of player, even if you’re 90 percent of what you once were, you’re still pretty darn good in the NHL.
- Josh Cooper of the Tennessean: The Avalanche (No. 1) and Panthers (No. 2) have already said they could move their picks for the right price. The Predators at No. 4 are keeping their options open.
“We’ll entertain offers. We’ve already had people inquire with us about it and vice-versa,” assistant general manager Paul Fenton said. “We’ll talk about whatever position that can improve us for the whole big picture of things.”
Still, Fenton was cautious: “In order to move up to that position, you’re going to have to make an offer that you can’t refuse.”
- Jonathan Willis of the Edmonton Journal: It’s unlikely that the Oilers at No. 7 would be able to move up to the Panthers No. 2. What makes it a difficult is the drop off in talent from the top two players, Seth Jones and either Nathan MacKinnon and Jonathan Drouin. Usually there is a bigger drop off between the top two picks.
- Jonathan Willis of Oilers Nation: If the Oilers are looking to move back and add a player or a few more picks, the Blue Jackets might be a trade partner if they want to move up to grab someone. The Oilers draft at No. 7 with the Blue Jackets holding the No.14, No. 19, No. 27 to 30 and No. 44. Potential players the Oilers could look at are: R.J. Umberger, Ryan Johansen, Boone Jenner, James Wisniewski, Fedor Tyutin and Nikita Nikitin.
- Adrian Dater of the Denver Post: Some potential trade scenarios involving the Avalanche’s 1st overall pick.1. Trade the 1st pick to the Panthers (No. 2) or Lightning (No. 3) for an establish player or two and their own 1st round pick. Avs take whatever player is left.
Let’s make an offer here to the Lightning: “We’ll trade you the No. 1 pick for the No. 3 pick and Victor Hedman. What do you say, Steve Yzerman? If you want Nathan MacKinnon really bad, this is the price to have him. Maybe we’ll throw in David Jones too.”
2. Offer the Panthers Paul Stastny and Erik Johnson for the 2nd overall pick. Panthers may counter with Matt Duchene instead of Stastny. Would that Avs part with Duchene and Johnson?
3. Avs first and Stastny for Panthers first and Jonathan Huberdeau?
Dater admits that the trade scenarios likely wouldn’t work.
- David Staples of the Edmonton Journal: Former Oilers assistant coach, Craig Simpson, thinks that it is time for the Oilers to part ways with Shawn Horcoff and Ales Hemsky.
“I think the Oilers have always been the opposite where you’ll get three back that are questions or rookies or draft picks and you don’t necessarily get the best player. I think at some point there has to be a deal or two from Craig where you’re giving up more of the volume and the potential, but you’ve got the best player in the deal. That hasn’t happened a whole lot.”
Simpson thought the Oilers should have traded Hemsky at the trade deadline last year.
- Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News: The Sharks made some move during the season, and there may not be a need or efficient way to blow it up. The roster is well structured with Logan Couture, Brent Burns, Joe Pavelski, Antti Niemi and Marc-Edouard Vlasic. Joe Thornton had an good playoff run, and they have veterans like Patrick Marleau and Dan Boyle. Kawakami thinks the Sharks will likely try to trade Martin Havlat and his $10 million over two years. They could amnesty him for $6.67 million if they can’t find any takers.
- Adrian Dater: Not certain, but Francois Allaire could be getting a cal from Roy as possibly the Avs goalie coach.
- Renaud Lavoie: Patrick Roy will be talking to other GM’s about trades. Roy has told Joe Sakic that they should study the possibility of trading their first round pick this year. Adrian Dater: It is possible that the Avs might trade the 1st overall pick, or try to trade to get top two picks.
- Mark Kiszla of the Denver Post: The Avalanche will actively entertain offers for the first overall pick.
“We haven’t decided what we’re going to do in the draft. We haven’t decided which player we’re going to take at No. 1. We haven’t decided if we’re going to take a player at No. 1. There are lot of options we can discuss, and we will be discussing,” Sakic told me Tuesday.
“We’re not set in stone with what we’re going to do. We might take the first pick, we might take the second guy or we might not. That’s the exciting thing about having the first pick, especially this year.”
It makes sense for the Avs to draft Seth Jones as they need to improve on the blueline. Adding Nate MacKinnon would allow them to trade Paul Stastny or another center for a defenseman or goalie. Kiszla wonders if a Stastny for Ryan Miller trade would work?
- Joe Haggerty of CSNNE: It was a “prove it” year for Tuukka Rask as he took over the No. 1 job from Tim Thomas. He was left off the Vezina Trophy ballots after posting the third best save percentage (.929) and fourth best goals-against average (2.00). Rask will be getting a nice big contract this summer and GM Peter Chiarelli thinks it’s easier to sign guys after they’ve had a successful season.
“I’m happy for him that he’s playing well and he’s helping the team,” said Chiarelli. “It’s always easier to sign these guys after success. He’s showing some resiliency, which I like, and some durability, which I like.
“I liked [Rask's] big saves. We had some real good games where, I’d have to go back and look, but I think we had a chance in every game.”
Rask could be looking for a 5-6 year deal in the range of $5-$6 million per season. Comparables could be Jimmy Howard’s $5.291 million cap hit and Carey Price’s $6.5 million cap hit.
- Larry Brooks of the NY Post: Brooks thinks the Rangers need to lock up defenseman Ryan McDonagh before the Flyers are able to sheet him after buying out Ilya Bryzgalov. Brooks wonders if the Devils have any choice but to give Patrick Elias whatever he wants. Pascal Dupuis could be one of the most sought after free agents, but will he take less to remain with the Penguins?
- Adrian Dater: Avs center Paul Stastny is in the last year of his deal and has a $6.6 million cap hit. Dater is sure “the Avs would get a whole lot for him.”
- Adrian Dater of the Denver Post: Nathan MacKinnon outplayed Seth Jones and Jonathan Drouin. You obviously don’t draft someone based on a couple of games. It seems like a “damned if they do, damned if they don’t” scenario on deciding between Jones and MacKinnon. Down the middle the Avs have Matt Duchene (not going anywhere), Ryan O’Reilly (can’t trade until Feb. 28th next year) and Paul Stastny (RFA after next season, could be moved). They need more help on the blueline than another young forward.
Morning Hits: Patrick Roy and the Avs, Canucks Coaches, Avs #1 pick, Flyers draft options and Caps UFA Hendricks
- Adrian Dater of the Denver Post: Patrick Roy’s brother, Stephane, is saying that Patrick will be the next coach of the Colorado Avalanche.
“They’re discussing the final details of an arrangement. Colorado is going to be very happy. Patrick is looking for a new challenge,” said Stephane Roy, the younger brother of his famous sibling.
The Avalanche wouldn’t confirm and Patrick couldn’t be reached.
- Renaud Lavoie: It’s premature to say that Patrick Roy is the head coach of the Avalanche as it’s not a done deal.
- Ed Willes of the Vancouver Province: The Canucks coaching staff including Alain Vigneault, Rick Bowness and Newell Brown, are still waiting to learn their fate from GM Mike Gillis. The trio don’t understand why they haven’t heard anything yet.
- Adrian Dater of the Denver Post: The Avalanche’s chief scout, Rick Parcey, said that Seth Jones being their likely top pick in the draft is premature.
“The No. 1 spot, it’s open,” Pracey told me. “You know, Nathan MacKinnon and Jonathan Drouin and Alexander Barkov, and you can go into other guys. There are others out there – Sean Monahan, Elias Lindholm – that are very, very interesting players. It’s by far not a slam dunk. It’s not one player that’s running away with this thing.”
Dater would still bet on the Avs draft Jones as he fills a big need on the blueline.
“We have to be looking at the best player available,” Pracey said. “When you’re holding the No. 1 pick, you still have to maintain that philosophy. We’re after not only the most talented kid right now, but long into the future. We hope this is a 10-15 year player for us. We have to make sure we have all our bases covered. They’re all good players, and we’ve had an extreme amount of coverage on these top kids, and now we’re entering the secondary phase.”
- Sam Carchidi of the Philadelphia Inquirer: Carchidi lists some names who could be there when the Flyers pick 11th overall in the 2013 NHL draft: Darnell Nurse (D), Rasmus Ristolainen (D), Ryan Pulock (D), Hunter Shinkaruk (C/LW), Frederik Gauthier (C), Sean Monahan (C) and Nikita Zadorov (D).
- Katie Carrera of the Washington Post: The Capitals will have tough UFA decisions on Mike Ribeiro and valuable fourth-liner Matt Hendricks. Hendricks kills penalties, drops the gloves if need be and is respected by teammates and coaches. He’s likely due a raise from the $800,000 he earned this past season. He hopes to remain in Washington.
“It’s a big part of the business when it comes to players’ salaries,” Hendricks said. “You want to get what you feel you deserve and what is right, and that’s what happens in the negotiating process.”
The Capitals currently sit about $6.2 million under next seasons $64.3 million salary cap.
“When you’re in a cap world, sometimes you just don’t have choices,” McPhee said. “This is what you have to work with and if it doesn’t fit for them you move on, you get someone else and that’s the world we live in now.”
Nothing Scheduled … Hishon cleared … Varlamov returns … Draft rankings and what could happen with the draft
- Darren Dreger via twitter: There is still lots of optimism that the season will be saved in early 2013. Dreger is hopeful, but less optimistic.
- Tim Panaccio of CSN Philly: As of the 24th, no meetings were scheduled between the NHL and NHLPA.
“We haven’t talked about meetings later this week,” Daly said in an e-mail. “I guess we will see.”
- Brad Shade via twitter: Joey Hishon has been cleared to practice after being out 19 months with a concussion.
- Adrian Dater of the Denver Post: Semyon Varlamov returned to Yaroslavl Lokomotiv lineup on Friday after missing a couple weeks with a knee injury.
- Bob McKenzie via twitter: McKenzie asked 10 scouts about 2013 draft eligibles. 7 have Nate MacKinnon at number 1, 3 had Seth Jones. Top 10 rankings: 1. MacKinnon (CAN); 2. Jones (USA); 3. Aleksander Barkov (FIN); 4. Elias Lindholm (SWE); 5. Jonathan Drouin (CAN); 6. Rasmus Ristolainen (FIN); 7. Valeri Nichushkin (RUS); 8. Alex Wennberg (SWE); 9. Jacob De La Rose (SWE); 10. Linus Arnesson (SWE).
- Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal: So what happens to the NHL draft if the season is cancelled?
“Anybody who says they have a clue, they’re lying,” said Al Murray, Tampa Bay Lightning’s head of amateur scouting.
Before the 2005 draft, the NHL held a lottery to see who would get the chance to draft Sidney Crosby. It was held 5 weeks after the normal date, and 17 days after the CBA was agreed upon. If there is no CBA during the summer, there could be no draft.
“There can’t be a draft without a CBA. That’s one of the things collectively bargained,” said former NHL general manager Craig Button, now a draft guru for TSN.
“The NHL could still implement a draft regardless of having no CBA, but the NHLPA could say no and then everybody’s a free agent. That would be messy. What if they say there’s a bidding situation for the junior players? It’s far-fetched and I don’t think it would happen, but …”
If a CBA gets done after the season is cancelled, and they do look to hold a draft, they could go with a lottery like they did after the last lockout.
“If they go on the same format for the lottery, Columbus would have five balls, three of their own and they’ve also got L.A.’s pick (for Jeff Carter) and the Rangers (for Rick Nash). They would be the overwhelming favourite,” said Button.
The Flames, Wild, Stars, Hurricanes, Maple Leafs and Jets would each have three balls.
- The Fouth Period: Last Friday the City of Glendale signed a lease agreement with Greg Jamison’s group, Hockey Partners LLC. Jamison now has until Jan. 31st to purchase the team.